blueyes29
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posted on June 26, 2004 11:51:10 AM
A friend gave me an old silverplate (I'm pretty sure...it doesn't seem heavy enough for sterling) tray to sell for her. On the bottom are these marks...Also, the numbers "5447" are deeply embossed. The numbers "86 1/6" are also lightly scratched on the bottom. Any help with identification will be appreciated...Thanks in advance!
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cblev65252
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posted on June 26, 2004 03:45:10 PM
Here's what I learned from fluffy. Hopefully, I don't have it backward. Sterling is lighter than Sterling plate. Wish I could help you out more here, but I'm clueless when it comes to this stuff. If it isn't marked .925, I'm in the dark. LOL!
Cheryl
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toasted36
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posted on June 26, 2004 03:48:31 PM
I'm not very good at silver marks blueyes29 but I did find a reference to BSCEP in little square boxes being Barbour Silver Co. of Hartford CT. maybe that will give you a starting point
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OhMsLucy
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posted on June 26, 2004 03:55:03 PM
Hi all,
Where is Fluffy, anyway?
I *think* the EP means electroplated.
Lucy
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on June 26, 2004 04:19:25 PM
I was wondering about fluffy myself. Isn't the ebay show in New Orleans about now? She also mentioned going to Las Vegas, too.
Diane
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meadowlark
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posted on June 26, 2004 04:52:46 PM
Hah! I'm feeling rather insoucient today.
The first figure looks like a winged portion of the male anatomy with legs, the second is Audrey from The Little Shop of Horrors, the third is a man hitting himself in the head with hammer for falling down the well.
Then "BS Comes Easily - Patty
NS = "nice stuff"
Okay, so I'm feeling extremely silly today!
Patty
[ edited by meadowlark on Jun 26, 2004 09:25 PM ]
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sanmar
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posted on June 26, 2004 06:39:52 PM
These are English markings. I can't give you the maker tonight, but will look them up tomorrow.
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OhMsLucy
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posted on June 26, 2004 06:59:30 PM
Very good, Patty!
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meadowlark
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posted on June 26, 2004 09:25:47 PM
Lucy, sometimes I just can't help myself!
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sparkz
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posted on June 26, 2004 10:20:14 PM
I think the EP indicates it is electroplated. Also, the wear on the bottom looks like it's showing the brass under the plating. At least on my monitor.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on June 27, 2004 07:19:40 AM
I received an e-mail from Fluffy, and this is what she says:
"They are faux marks...meaning, they have no meaning."
"Sanmar is wrong. They are not English hallmarks (or from Ireland or Scotland, or any other country)."
"Silverplate manufacturers splash these symbols on their ware to fool the unwary into believing they are buying a superior product."
"Manufacturer identification in these cases is useless since the item is usually only worth a buck or two at best. Putting the maker's name on it will not add value."
Diane
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meadowlark
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posted on June 27, 2004 07:39:08 AM
Hmm... I guess I was closer to the truth than I thought!
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OhMsLucy
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posted on June 27, 2004 03:19:13 PM
Right on the button, Patty, right on the button! 
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myoldtoy
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posted on June 27, 2004 05:54:00 PM
as per Toasted:
the marks belong to Barbour Silver Co., Hartford, Conn...quadruple[EP] plate..[NS = nickel on silver]...produced after 1923...
hope this helps...myoldtoy
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blueyes29
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posted on June 27, 2004 08:40:35 PM
Thanks everyone...esp. Oldtoy...My awe and amazement at the knowledge of folks on this board and their willingness to share remains unabated!
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sanmar
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posted on June 27, 2004 09:22:35 PM
blueyes, I spent 2 hours this afternoon at my friends antique store with a book of silver marks. After going cross eyued looking at these, I don't have an answer. I am not done. I will find the answer.
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OhMsLucy
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posted on June 27, 2004 09:32:15 PM
You know, guys, there's so much talent here...
I'm always impressed with our EO friends willingness to share. No matter what the question is or how insignificant it might seem to be, there's ALWAYS someone ready to help.
Thanks one and all and I hope I can help sometimes too.
Lucy
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on June 28, 2004 06:59:12 AM
EP is electro plated - NS is for Nickle Silver (which is just white metal and not really silver)
Maker does matter in silverplate if it's an old piece by a very good maker. Check past sales on ebay and you may just be surprised.
Good luck
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