posted on June 27, 2004 04:08:42 AM new
I browsed the Health and Beauty category today, looking for a chair massager (honest!) and I could not believe the stuff they had listed. Vibrators, neon pocket rockets, dancing dolphins, ben wa balls and yes, even bu__ plugs, spelled out right there in the auction title.
I'm no prude mind you, but wouldn't these items be considered inappropriate? There are hundreds of them. If these are allowed, I can only imagine the stuff that must be in the adult category. I better go check it out. LOL
posted on June 27, 2004 10:03:57 AM new
If their use was being demonstrated in the auction images then, yes, they would be inappropriate.
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posted on June 27, 2004 11:08:40 AM new
As long as there is nothing explicit about the ad (as in photos) there is nothing wrong with them. You don't have to be over 18 to buy a vibrator.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
posted on June 27, 2004 03:38:27 PM new
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posted on June 27, 2004 04:07:09 PM new
Well, the auction shows a vacuum-packaged item. The item in quest--a butt plug--can't be seen clearly through the plastic. The package features a buxom woman in a bikini. The auction description says what it is but gives no graphic description on how to insert and use it. The word "anal" does make an appearance.
All-in-all, the auction isn't all that startling. Personally, if the idea of butt plugs and vikbrators--clearly mentioned in the auction title--upset or disgusted me, I wouldn't look at the auction.
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posted on June 27, 2004 04:56:52 PM new
I did not say it upset or disgusted me. It just surprised me that this type of item can be listed in this category. Aside from it having nothing to do with health or beauty, it's an adult toy. And I think we all know how the market can be deluged with adult advertising.
I suppose it would bother me if this was the category I sold in, simply because some buyers might turn away from the whole thing. That's all.
posted on June 27, 2004 05:35:19 PM new
I agree with you, doormat. Those who do not wish to view XXX items and aren't shopping in that category, shouldn't have to view them. We have no way to "filter" the adult porn stuff on ebay. Of course, we can make the suggestion, which as we all know will, fall on deaf ears. What's upsetting is that a kid can go shopping on ebay and pull it up. Ebay definitely needs filters.
posted on June 27, 2004 05:41:08 PM new
Can't agree. Ebay doesn't need filters at all. On the contrary, it is up to parents to control what their kids access on their computers. There is software available for installation on home computers that allows them to do so.
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posted on June 27, 2004 05:47:12 PM new
bunnicula -- Do you have young children? Probably not or else you wouldn't have made that statement. You can buy programs to "help" stop children from accessing the porn on the internet. However, I would HARDLY call ebay "porn". When I was growing up, my parents didn't have to worry about what their children would access on a computer, because there weren't any computers. However, today is a totally different story. Most kids today know more about computers and programs than their parents do (without a doubt)! And besides that, how many parents can watch their children 24/7? We can't. As best as I keep a very close and tight eye on my child, I cannot completely smother her. She needs her space. This day and age is a totally different story when you were growing up, bunnicula.
posted on June 27, 2004 06:01:51 PM new
Yes, you can buy software that allows you to block access to sites you don't want your child visiting. That includes eBay. And parents who don't use such software can and should be checking the computer's history to see just where their kids have been going to--and confronting the child if they go someplace they should not have been. Yes, a computer-savvy child might wipe the history--which should lead a parent to confront them on just why the history as wiped...
Can you watch your child 24/7? No. but you can take reasonable steps. Any "shopping" a child does on eBay should be done under parental supervision. Home computers should be in family areas, not a child's room, so you can keep an eye on what they are looking at. Look at the computer's history. Discuss proper usage with your child, etc.
Let's be honest. Every child sometime, somewhere, somehow, is going to see, hear or read something we think they shouldn't. Rather than running around trying to censor everything that might possibly have something "bad" available, it is up to the parent to raise their child with the values they believe in & to be ready to openly discuss "bad" things with their children when they run across them--to explain why you believe such things are wrong and should be avoided. Otherwise, how is the child ever going to learn how to deal with things for himself?
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posted on June 27, 2004 06:09:33 PM new
Bunnicula -- Definitely agree! And all that a parent like myself can do is teach their child[ren] the best way that we can and hope that we have taught her well. Geez.... We really should be given a "parents' manual" upon the birth of our child!
posted on June 27, 2004 06:26:32 PM new
Yeah, Tom, do that ... Because no matter how hard you try to teach him ... RALPHIE CANNOT RUN THE COMPUTER!!! He does not qualify as a child. And besides that, Ralphie is more concerned about sniffing butts than plugging them.
posted on June 27, 2004 08:23:31 PM new
"And besides that, Ralphie is more concerned about sniffing butts than plugging them." LOL Diane!
Also, if they gave us a parents manual with the birth of a child, we would probably SEND THEM BACK because we would be scared to death! (I have 7 children, 3 boys, 4 girls and the youngest is in her last year of college)
BTW, Ralphie is one of, if not THE cutest dog I have ever seen...he can sniff as many butts as he wants...
posted on June 27, 2004 09:05:12 PM new
Keep your dog away from the computer! When they look at the doggie porn, they DROOL on the keyboard! It is not good for the keyboard.
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posted on June 28, 2004 02:37:57 AM new
BTW, apparently you can bid on someone's pubic hair without going to the adult section too.
That should pack in the buyers.
posted on June 28, 2004 06:24:27 AM new
GAG! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too early in the morning for that one!
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posted on June 28, 2004 07:10:07 AM new
According to eBay's guidelines on sexually oriented material - these items shud be in the mature adult sections:
So #3489812521 shows the seller in his underwear, briefs, offering them for sale. Not in the adult category. Worded to say unUSED, unWORN, meaning they are really used and worn, but eBay does not allow that, so this is the way around it.
#5504841154 states:
"This is an authentic pair of unused Personalisd Underwear you can not find any where on the net.
No gimmick, there are no others of THIS special underwear I made VERY special.
It reeks of my personle touch."
Both are obviously intended to be of a sexual nature.
Does Ebay care? Not really, unless someone complains and they think they will lose business over it