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 REAMOND
 
posted on January 30, 2002 01:27:24 AM new
Not only are there "law abiding" citizens on the transplant wait list, but there are millions of adults and children without any medical insurance. Why is it that we can provide medical care to prisoners and can not to the rest of society ? Something is definitely wrong with this situation.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20020130_230.html

 
 Borillar
 
posted on January 30, 2002 10:57:56 AM new
"Why is it that we can provide medical care to prisoners and can not to the rest of society ?"

Simple. The Republicans think that it means the redistribution of their wealth to the Poor.

Republican voters think that this applies to them and their middle-class stature as well. That the Republican GOP does not represent anyone with an income of under $300,000 per year fails to connect with them that they aren't being represented in our government. So, if the Upper-Upper class have to pay more into the coffers than Lower-Class citizens do, they feel it PERSONALLY (impossible to do, but that's what they act like) and refuse to do what is only proper in a society and that is to take care of everyone's basic needs.

That Republicans are all for the redistribution of all the wealth from the Poor to the Rich makes them do Happy Dances on Tiptoes and they fight for the Rights of the Rich to suck-out all of the money from everyone below (including themselves) into abject poverty makes Republican voters Jump Happy Joy-Joy all day long!

"Something is definitely wrong with this situation."

What I jest sed!


Borillar
"Friends don't let friends vote republican"

 
 hjw
 
posted on January 30, 2002 11:58:00 AM new

It is criminal that we do not provide universal health care in the United States.

Right now, the ruthless insurance industry keeps their profit up and cost down by excluding the very sick and those with preexisting conditions, a practice called risk selection. That saves big bucks for the insurance industry.

So a sick person who loses their health insurance, by their employer going out of business, for example, cannot get into another plan. Furthermore, since we expect employers to cover health insurance, many people will not be covered because a rapidly growing segment of the population is part-time, unemployed, non-union, or temporary workers.

We can give tax cuts to the wealthy but we can't provide health care. It's clear that The Republican party priorities are elsewhere, with the wealthy.

Maybe the guy in prison was the CEO of an insurance company.

Helen



 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on January 30, 2002 12:34:01 PM new
I don't understand health care in the U.S. In Canada, you pay the province insurance from every pay check, not an Insurance Company, no matter who you work for. That way you're always covered. Now they've issued a Health Card so every legal citizen can have medical care.

Why wouldn't that type of system work in the U.S.?


"Sometimes when we touch, the honesty's too much....."
 
 Borillar
 
posted on January 30, 2002 04:15:57 PM new
"Why wouldn't that type of system work in the U.S.?"

Kraftdinner, it would work in the USA. If no other means for a medical coverage were available and all we had was to model ours on would be the Canadian system - with its faults, mind you, it would be a whole lot more humanitarian than the cruel system that is in place right now. Unfortunately, detractors here derail discussions by pointing out the faults of the Canadian system (every system has a downside), as if it were worse to have than nothing at all - which is pretty much what we have right now.

The main problem is that medicine, the sick, ill, and dying are >>BIG BUSINESS<< and mean >>LOTS OF PROFITS<< for insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and many for-profit hospitals. That a TRILLION-DOLLAR-INDUSTRY should vanish overnight with a more sensible, humanitarian system is UNTHINKABLE here for the Rich (who can easily afford any medical expenses). Let's face it: so long a A LOTTA $$$ is being made on the suffering of our fellow citizens, then the system will never change.



Borillar
"Friends don't let friends vote republican"

 
 REAMOND
 
posted on January 30, 2002 09:54:21 PM new
The Republicans scared the U.S. from going into universal health care with "examples" from Canada.

The nightly news showed Canadians that had the money coming to the U.S. to get heart surgery, cancer treatments etc., because didn't want to "stand in line in Canada for months" to get life saving treatments.

However, the reason there are no lines for health care in the U.S. is because the poor are taken out of the line.

To bring up another extreme example- a mass murderer in prison in Illinois was given sex change therapy at the cost of thousands of dollars. Yet we have millions of kids that have no access to primary health care or dental care.

By the way- the Republican response to prisoners getting health care ? End health care for prisoners.



 
 hjw
 
posted on January 30, 2002 10:09:31 PM new

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"By the way- the Republican response to prisoners getting health care ? End health care for prisoners"

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The Republican response to health care for anybody other than themselves is to end it. It doesn't surprise me that they would be opposed to health care for prisoners.

Helen

 
 Borillar
 
posted on January 31, 2002 09:58:42 AM new
"The Republican response to health care for anybody other than themselves is to end it. It doesn't surprise me that they would be opposed to health care for prisoners."

LOL! Helen! Republicans get upset that *ANYBODY* has *ANYTHING*! They want *IT ALL* for *THEMSELVES* so that they can Lord It Over the rest of the 99.9% Poor. The Repuboicans CAN'T STAND the thought that England gets to have ROYALTY to /SNEER!/ at the "Common Folk" and THEY can't! That's what it really is all about. The damned Rich want to be Royalty! And the Republican Voters WANT THEM TO HAVE IT!!!


Borillar
"Friends don't let friends vote republican"

 
 
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