"FORT DRUM, New York (CNN) -- In a tough-talking pep talk to one of the first divisions to have been deployed to Afghanistan, President Bush pressed the Senate Friday to approve his call for the largest increase in funding for the U.S. military since the Reagan administration."
"Our troops must be well-trained, well-equipped and well-paid in order to fight and win this war," Bush told about 10,000 soldiers and their families. "We must never cut corners when it comes to our national security."
In the meantime, public schools are crumbling into rubble; the stock market is nearing a catastrophic failure. Seems that Bush has money for only two things: Money to persecute his enemies and Money to persecute Americans through the OHS and the Patriot Act to shut them up.
REAMOND was debating me earlier about how this "war" could possibly not have any real meaning to the word. In other words: why bother to declare a straightforward and legal Act of War when it's Congress who holds the Purse Strings? REAMOND is about to find out why. The Democrats are holding out on funding Bush's exorbitant defense spending request to further prosecute Bush's War. Will they hold out against all odds? Will they act as that great Breaking System against the excesses of the Bush Administration, so that no formal and legal Declaration of War need apply here?
Nope. The Democrats will hold up the bandwagon and the Republicans will ask them what they want in exchange. You see, their ploy is nothing more than a Trading Chip. While you can't fault them for doing that, it makes the point about how the Congress controls the Purse Strings a deafening joke!
This Bush's War is illegal and busts the U.S. Constitution. President Bush needs to be arrested and removed from office forcefully before he can violate any more Constitutional laws.
posted on July 20, 2002 08:16:25 AM new
For those of us who are glad we have a military to defend our country, and believe that they are underpaid, it's about time more money is spent in this direction. Too many years of cutting back on defense.
And you're right. If the democrats don't support military spending [to some degree] they'd be digging their own grave, politically, in the event our country is attacked again.
posted on July 20, 2002 10:29:08 AM new
"Consider that the Department of Defense has never passed an independent audit".
"Consider that the Inspector General has notified Congress that the Pentagon cannot properly account for $1.2 trillion in transactions".
"Consider that in recent years the Dept. of Defense could not match $22 billion worth of expenditures to the items it purchased,wrote off,as lost, billions of dollars worth of "in-transit inventory" and stored nearly $30 billion worth of spare parts it did not need".
"Yet the defense budget grows with more money for weapons systems to fight a cold war which ended, weapon systems in search of new enemies to create new wars". [which, oh, by the way, kill more sons and daughters but never mind that]
Is that the direction you'd spend your taxes, blockheads, when you say "it's about time more money is spent in this direction"?
posted on July 20, 2002 03:04:51 PM new
It would be hard say which rat holes are bigger, military ones or social ones. At least the military winds up well equipped. Spend a billion and Johnny still can't read and everyone just shrugs.
Borillar,
"public schools are crumbling into rubble"
Where might that be.
"the stock market is nearing a catastrophic failure"
Some economist told you this??? Or is another one of your predictions?? If so, give us a date. We'll make a bet. We can mail the money to a neutral 3rd party.
posted on July 20, 2002 03:07:53 PM newROTFL! KRS! When the next issue comes out, please be sure to post it here!
Also, KRS can provide you with the links to those statements above (I saw them around here just last week in a thread.)
NO, it's the old tactic to throw as much money at the problem until it goes away. That money IS the problem doesn't seem to make a difference. But that's OK - their kids and grandkids can all sit outdoors to learn from ancient textbooks from creepy teachers, because "we're ALL much Safer spending money on sh*t we don't need!"
And where is this money $$ coming from, dum-dums? Taxes? No! It's gong to get B-O-R-R-O-W-E-D and put us even deeper into debt!
And WHERE will this money really go? Into the hands of Busche's pals and cronies, making them tens of billions of $$ dollars richer than they already are!
And WHAT do we get for that? Busche said today, "We'll use Diplomacy whenever possible, military action when we have to." Translation: "We'll spend all of that money that we don't have on weapons that we won't use for no other purpose than to make rich people richer."
Of course, you bought the Theory of Trickle-Down Economics, that's why you're buying into this garbage! When will you get it through your heads - there IS NO WAR! Al-Queda is cooperating in handing over Americans to the USA who come to them, which mean - if you think about it, it mans that the "spat" between the Busche Régime and Al-Queda is over and now they're Best Buddies once again! Note that Al-Queda is no longer a target anywhere - isn't that the E*N*E*M*Y? Don't be a Dum-Dum forever, wakie-wakie and see with your own eyes what's going on!
posted on July 20, 2002 03:10:49 PM new
DuhSquirrel, it is only a figure of speech. Once again, your Dick and Jane level of reading comphrension is showing.
posted on July 20, 2002 04:01:55 PM new
Why provide you a link, desqyuirrel, when it's only a matter of a glance into the congressional record you need do, you lazy slug. Butt wait! All you need do is read the speeches of but one member - a member you know well enough to provide us all with a personal sketch of the person which you derived solely from your own ignorant musings. Ring any bells?
posted on July 20, 2002 11:05:36 PM new
KRS: I was watching that series on the Romans again. This time, historians were relating the problems that Rome had in the third century a.d. with the Legions. Back then, the Legions had a tendency to elect their Generals as Empowers and march on Rome to put him into power there. They installed 30 Emperors in just 23 years!
What was of significance was the lesson learned there by historians. It goes: "When the military becomes more important than the State, then both are Doomed!"
Is not Busche exalting the military above the needs of the State with his insane, dictatorial requests for more money and power for his military adventurers? Are we all doomed to repeat history?
You should probably stop listening to that little voice in your head. You know, the one that says you're so clever. Also, the pompous jackass routine is wearing thin, can you do Bogie?
posted on July 21, 2002 07:28:14 AM new
dusquirrelly,
If you pay attention you'd find that I treat in kind, and with equanimity. Since every mealymouthed pissant receives a similar regard I really don't see that you have a complaint.
Borillar,
Yes, parallels to draw every day, but the military contractual gift giving isn't the worst of it quite.
The radio condemnation of corporate criminals yesterday was amazing. How does he keep a straight face? From a family history such as his is, and with his own fortunes derived from misuse of position or connections mainly, this creep who all but slept with the bunch of them, especially his fav "Kenny-boy", can attempt to reassure the country that all will be well? It ought to earn him a first in line at the posh federal prison chow line.
posted on July 21, 2002 10:11:19 AM new
I do wonder if Bush would have the "Guts" to call for the Largest Increase in Education's History..... No, we Need it for Afghanistan (oops, forgot Terrorism).... People that scream that the Military is Underfunded, make me "smile". I know we Need the Money to Destroy IRAQ...are we Going to again Hear stories about How Viscious and War Tested the "Republican Guard" are (The Same ones that were the quickest to surrender), Daddies "Old" administration passed that story around so MANY Times, That I actuially thought they were a "Crack" Fighting crew...But it was BS.
posted on July 21, 2002 10:44:02 AM new
rat holes are bigger,
he he he
actually I'm surprised at you guys you all think there is some sinister motive here actually the fastest way to jack a failing economy has alwys been to throw money into the military, If it goes to companies they hire and spend like mad, if it goes to our troops they spend on the things they always wanted either way an instant jack up.
There is not one person here dumb enough to think that there will not be some needle dicked thief selling a 600.00 hammer if they get the chance, but this time as there is the sacred war on terror why not jail some of these guys too for aiding the enemy.
posted on July 21, 2002 02:14:29 PM new
You're 100% correct on that assessment AN, IMO. I hadn't realized that Busche might be trying to prop up the economy with his millitary spending. But I recall that we used tro do just that during the Reagan Era, which the Millitary-Industrial complex looks back so fondly upon.
I also like th idea that defense contractors who are found to be overcharging and stealing from the government should be treated as an Enemy and designated an Enemy Combatant.
posted on July 21, 2002 09:37:55 PM new
I guess I should explain why I feel this way.
I was shocked to learn that Washington with his troops in rags cold and hungry at valley forge had more than once caught some scoundrel keeping the donated and purchased equipment and selling it for a profit.
later I learned that the turret bolts originally sold for the m1 tank were shearing off and all had to be replaced.
The type of person who does this is not someone you can reason with they are the worst of the worst and should be prosecuted with everything our government as.
they present a clear and present danger to the success of any military operation our forces engage in.
the penalties should match the severity with deportation and loss of citizenship an option as well as a firing squad in the case of intentional harm to our troops that was done for a profit.
This adminsitration has made a lot of how responsible the poor should be. well maybe but they are not the Martha stewarts of the world nor do they for the most part hold shares in world com enron or exxon. They dont drive around in fancy cars while being paid a quater million dollars a year to lie about the books.
and while I am at it someone ought to get Gore over to a fair lady or other fat farm.
posted on July 21, 2002 10:29:53 PM new
Except for the Gore comment, which I do not fathom, informed Americans agree with you 100%. To purposely sabotage the materiel for the millitary in order to squeeze a few more pennies is more than just criminal, it puts every American in Harm's Way, even if they sit at home watching on the TV. Such people are the worst scum and should be delt with harshly, instead of being given more new contracts.
