posted on October 12, 2003 09:26:57 AM new
IRGINIA BEACH, Va. (Oct. 12) - The U.S. State Department has condemned an on-air suggestion by religious broadcaster Pat Robertson that the agency ought to be blown up with a nuclear device.
Robertson, who heads the Virginia Beach-based Christian Broadcasting Network, made the remark while interviewing author Joel Mowbray on ``The 700 Club'' television program last week. Mowbray wrote a book called ``Dangerous Diplomacy: How the State Department Endangers America's Security.''
``I read your book. When you get through, you say, 'If I could just get a nuclear device inside Foggy Bottom, I think that's the answer.' I mean, you get through this, and you say, 'We've got to blow that thing up,''' Robertson said during the interview.
The State Department's headquarters are located in Foggy Bottom, a Washington neighborhood.
AP
Robertson says the State Department undermines U.S. policies and principles of freedom.
Richard Boucher, the agency's top spokesman, called the remark Thursday ``despicable.''
``I lack sufficient capabilities to express my disdain,'' Boucher said to reporters during a press briefing.
Robertson was out of town and could not be reached for comment, his spokeswoman Angell Watts said Friday.
In National Review magazine, Mowbray has written articles criticizing the way visas were issued in Saudi Arabia. Mowbray was questioned in 2002 by the State Department after disclosing at a press briefing that he had obtained a classified document about visa issues.
Robertson also advocated bombing the State Department during a June interview with Mowbray.
``Well, it looks like Congress had better do something, and maybe we need a very small nuke thrown off on Foggy Bottom to shake things up,'' Robertson said.
The Christian evangelist regularly condemns the State Department as a rogue element he says consistently undermines U.S. policies and the principles of freedom.
``It's like an entrenched bureaucracy that has their own agenda, and it doesn't comport with the will of the American people. How do we get rid of them?'' he said during the June interview.
In a July broadcast of ``The 700 Club,'' Robertson accused the State Department of supporting Muslim rebels who opposed the Liberian government headed by Charles Taylor.
Robertson, a Bush supporter who has financial interests in Liberia, said he believed the State Department has ``mismanaged the situation in nation after nation after nation'' in Africa.
``So we're undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels to take over the country,'' he said during the July broadcast.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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posted on October 12, 2003 09:30:54 AM new
Everytime we start to forget that this raving nutcase bastion of hypocrasy and master of the fine art of inserting ones foot into their own mouth is still out there, he comes up with such jewels as this.
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posted on October 12, 2003 10:15:51 AM new
Twelve - when wsas the last time that you saw any of those three support the nuking of US facilities and people? Just curious because I must of have missed their advocation of usage of WOMD on ourselves.
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posted on October 12, 2003 10:23:10 AM new
It's no wonder that terrorists such as McVie are created here at home by these mainstream Christian leaders espousing their viewpoints.
It's a good thing that prayer for Robinson doesn't work. A few months ago, he called for a prayer offensive to call for the death of three Liberal Supreme Court Justices.
Frankly, I'm surprised to see that he doesn't have the support of Twelvepole....or does he?
"In July, evangelist Pat Robertson launched what he described as a "prayer offensive," formally known as Operation Supreme Court Freedom. On his television show, the 700 Club, he instructed viewers to kneel down and pray for God to remove a liberal justice from the high court. "One justice is 83 years old," Robertson said, "another has cancer and another has a heart condition. Would it not be possible for God to put it in the minds of these three judges that the time has come to retire?"
posted on October 12, 2003 11:15:56 AM new
Linda - since you also feel that it is the same and since Twelve hasn't found the opportunity, please tell me where any of those four advocated use of WOMD on American soil against a government department.
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posted on October 12, 2003 12:01:49 PM new
Robertson has a habit of supporting Dictators such as Mobutu and more recently, Taylor.
Recently, Robertson struck up a relationship with Liberian dictator Charles Taylor. Taylor instigated a bloody civil war that lasted seven years and reduced his country to chaos and devastation, and pointlessly financed rebels in neighboring Sierra Leone who have done the same thing there.
posted on October 12, 2003 12:14:15 PM new
No, I doubt he was joking. The man is a kook. About two years ago he said on his TV show that Hinduism is "demonic" for Pete's sake. He has a perpetual case of foot-in-mouth disease. Here are a few other quotes:
"You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense, I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them."
--The 700 Club, January 14, 1991
"[Homosexuals] want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers."
--The 700 Club, January 18, 1995
"Many of those people involved with Adolf Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals - the two things seem to go together."
--The 700 Club, January 21, 1993
"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."
--Fundraising letter, 1992
"N.O.W. is saying that in order to be a woman, you've got to be a lesbian."
--The 700 Club, December 3, 1997
"The Bible does talk about cuttings and piercings. All this stuff is a remnant, or an emblem of satanism -- the tattoos, the body piercing, all this. In many cultures, for example, the demonic powers invade people and supposedly they're immune to pain, and then they skewer themselves. They stick things through their tongues and their mouths -- this type of thing comes directly from satanism. So the rings in the ears, I don't know. It's just one part of weirdness and it's one part of teen-age rebellion and what do you do with them? I hope they don't get their ear lobes pulled off by somebody someplace. But if you've got any solution, I don't know what it is, except to sit down and talk to them and say, `Look, this is from paganism. You are a Christian.'"
--The 700 Club, "Bring It On" Segment
"People have immortal spirits with incredible power over elemental things. The way to deal with inanimate matter is to talk to it." quoted in San Francisco Examiner
Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
posted on October 12, 2003 12:14:47 PM new
What is figurative about...
'If I could just get a nuclear device inside Foggy Bottom, I think that's the answer.'
And diligently would you defend the same quote as being figurative if it was made by ... let's say... Michael Moore?
It's an irresponsible and reprehensible statement whether made by a conservative or a liberal and the fact that you would defend as anything other than that it is pathetic.
I don't believe that he literally wants to drop a bomb but in this day and age a rational reasonable adult just doesn't say that. Robertsons brain has left the building.
Stated the 9/11 was Gods judgement upon us for liberal thinking
Called for a nationwide prayer circle to aks for the death of three justices
Wants to Nuke the State Department because he disagrees with their politics.
I'm beginning to belive that some of you would defend a presidential assasin as long as he was conservative. Apparently good sense and logic are irrelevent as long as one claims the correct party affiiation.
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posted on October 12, 2003 12:32:36 PM new
Pat Robertson's credibility is up there with other fake leaders like David Koresh and those types. The only ones that listen to him are the truly weak. His (and the other fake minister's) popularity is a gage of how sick the country is, imo.
posted on October 12, 2003 02:26:19 PM new
Here fenix I will speak r e a l s l o w s o t h a t y o u c a n u n d e r s t a n d...
h i s o p i n i o n s a r e n o l e s s l u d i c r o u s t h a n m o s t o f t h e i r s.
No where did I say that they made the same remarks... it just his opinion, just like the Helen, Skylite, you and others have opinions... Why isn't when you disagree with something you can't see the abstract and when you agree all you think you see is the concrete?
Look up "ludicrous" and "opinion"... you may learn something today...
posted on October 12, 2003 03:46:16 PM new
Twelve - you can play snide, but when one of them says something ridiculous you jump on it like a preditor on a fresh kill. You make blanket comments regarding their intelligence, their sexual habits, their parentage or whatever insult your mood of the dy leads you too. When a conservative says something ridiculous however, rather than confront the actual issue, you simply brush it off and try to lesson it by comparision.
So next time Moore or any other liberal makes an absurd statement will you just brush it off because... well hell, it's nothing worse than anything Robertson says...... or will you bring it to the masses for a little vivisection?
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posted on October 12, 2003 04:08:30 PM new
The scary thing about all these Christian warriors is they are not happy to wait on the stroke of God. Oh no. They need to help him along.
In their faith you'd think they could have a little patience.
I would not be surprised at all if they hear voices telling them to do this stuff.
posted on October 12, 2003 04:10:00 PM new
I really don't believe any of this. Just take the statement:
"made the remark while interviewing author Joel Mowbray on ``The 700 Club''"
In order for this to be true, SOMEONE would actually have to have been watching that show in order to report this. Obviously, that is not possible, since NO living person has ever survived watching an episode of the 700 Club in entirety.
It's just not possible. I cannot believe even Pat Robinson watches the show.
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Changing the twelvepole's method of operation is an impossible task. Take care of yourself...I and the other "librulls" can handle twelve's silly taunts.
posted on October 12, 2003 05:28:39 PM new
::I don't take Pat Robertson literally... I have to much intelligence for that.::
Did you think I do? The man is a crackpot but that does not erase the extreme irresponsibility of such a statement no matter what context it may be made in. That was my point. That and the belief that you would be losing your everloving mind and screaming for someones head on a platter had that exact same quote been credited to a MIchael Moore or any other high profile liberal.
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Robertson is crazy like a fox. Regardless of how irresponsible or crazy you or I may think his message, it is broadcast and accepted by millions of people. He graduated magna cum laude with a BA degree fro Washington and Lee University...after serving in the Marines, he received a juris doctor degree from Yale University Law School in 1955 and a master of divinity degree from New York Theological Seminary in 1959.
He provides a powerful propaganda tool for the Bush machine.
posted on October 12, 2003 07:19:43 PM new
Twelve - when you have finished showing your solidarity with Rush and have come down off the meds, read what I have said again. It is not the liberals, but you that I am calling a hypocrit.
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posted on October 12, 2003 08:55:13 PM new
You can say it's hyperbole because a nuclear device is almost impossible to obtain. However if he had suggested using a rifle or just used the generic word bomb I think he'd be in jail right now. The government has zero tolerance for any suggestion of actual resistance today.
